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Aug. 3rd, 2007

So. Ohio has this proposed law that would require a woman looking to get an abortion to get permission from the father before she can get the abortion. If she doesn't know who the father is, she'll have to provide a list of possible fathers and a paternity test would have to be done before she could get an abortion.
So I guess if the guy doesn't want the abortion but the girl does, she's forced to carry the baby to term? How ridiculous is that?! I mean sure, she can give it to him once it's born and he can raise it. But she still has to carry the baby. She still has to birth it. I don't see how they can force a woman to do that against her will.
This issue has caused quite a debate on a community that I read. I just thought I'd ask you guys' opinions.

Here's the article.

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barelydave
Aug. 3rd, 2007 09:25 pm (UTC)
Oops i fell down the stairs.

problem solved.
joselyn8585
Aug. 3rd, 2007 10:44 pm (UTC)
I heard soiled kitty litter may cause fetal death. Maybe take a turd and throw it up there then fall down some stairs. Something will have to give.
sugrc0atdlies
Aug. 3rd, 2007 11:30 pm (UTC)
shove a pussy turd up your pussy? heh
joselyn8585
Aug. 4th, 2007 02:25 am (UTC)
Lol!
joselyn8585
Aug. 3rd, 2007 10:43 pm (UTC)
Paternity tests while pregnant are high risk so by all means go for it a bunch and maybe the baby will abort on it's own.
mruppercut
Aug. 4th, 2007 02:54 am (UTC)
Sounds good to me!

Men practically have no rights when it comes to this sort of thing, though the courts have no problem making men pay out all kinds of money, sometimes when the child isn't even their own!

I have a friend who found out a couple years after that an ex-girlfriend of his had an abortion. Her own family doesn't even know. My friend was very upset about it because that was his kid she killed. He would gladly have taken care of him/her.

You say you don't see how they can force a woman to that against her will, but how can they force a man to sit aside while a woman destory his child. It works both ways.

What this all comes down to is responsibility. People need to be more careful and make efforts to reduce unwanted pregnancy, then this sort of thing won't be such a big issue. I'm glad to see something like this being discussed, and I hope it does go into law.
sugrc0atdlies
Aug. 4th, 2007 06:54 pm (UTC)
I can see where you're coming from. I mean, I don't think it's right that a girl can choose to go have an abortion and never letting the baby daddy know she was pregnant. If I knew someone that was considering abortion, I'd try to talk her into telling the father. I think he has a right to know.
But then what about these girls that don't know who their baby daddy is? They have to do a paternity test. By the time this girl realizes she's pregnant THEN decides to have an abortion and THEN have to do paternity tests, that baby could already be born. Especially if the guys live out of state or they can't find them.
True, it works both ways but I just don't see making a woman carry a child she doesn't want for 9 months. True, she should've thought about that before having sex. I dunno, it's complicated. If there were a way to just transplant that baby to an artificial uterus, problem would be solved. It's wrong that the guy has no say but at the same time, it's wrong to tell a woman she HAS to carry that baby.
If this law gets passed, I figure there will be more illegal abortions performed. People will always figure out a way to get around things.
mol0tovcocktail
Aug. 4th, 2007 04:02 am (UTC)
That sounds fair, I think the father should have the same rights, it is his child as well. If she cant figure out who the dad is then just give the little tater tot to someone who will love it. I dont believe in abortion tho. so, im biased.
sugrc0atdlies
Aug. 4th, 2007 07:08 pm (UTC)
I could never have an abortion. But I'm not going to judge someone because they had one. I'm pro choice. If the woman can live with herself after having one, then great.
I just can't imagine being pregnant and not loving or wanting the baby. I can't imagine being forced to be pregnant and carry the baby. I mean sure, there's the woman that give their babies up for adoption. They do that because they love that baby and want the best for it. Adoption takes care of the baby. But for the woman that have abortions, it's not always the baby that they want taken care of. It's the pregnancy. Giving the baby up once it's born doesn't take away the pregnancy.
wasted_ambition
Aug. 26th, 2007 11:38 am (UTC)
I'm part of the alaskapix com. saw your fotos and browsed your journal.

As for this? I am for equal rights for equal contributors. on one condition. Child support.


If the father chooses not to be a part of the child's life and wants the woman to have an abortion and she chooses to carry the child to term then the father should not be required to shoulder any financial responsibility for her choice.

If a father wants the have this child the woman can still abort it.

None of this comes down to forcing a woman to "give up her choice" but it does have to do with a woman living up to and taking charge of her responsibilities for 9 months she already made the choice to have sex.

If you don't want to have a child and want a 100% sure way of defending against that then don't have sex.

Personally I don't like the idea of no choice for the father. I have been in this situation (false scare for her) not for me. I was all for becoming a parent but the first word from her lips was abortion.

There really isn't a debate of choice but one of responsibility.

I am all for choice so long as both partners have an equal say :)
sugrc0atdlies
Aug. 26th, 2007 07:30 pm (UTC)
:) Most of my entries are F-locked. I'll add ya. Add me back or not, it's all good.
Do you live in Alaska?

I don't like the idea of no choice for the father either. I also think it's sad that there are men out there that would LOVE to be in their kids' lives but because the baby-mama is crazy, it's nearly impossible to be. The women that use their kids to get what they want from the baby-daddy really irritate me too.

There really isn't a debate of choice but one of responsibility.
Well said!
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